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что эти девОчки могут понимать в таком сложном и непостижимом для них явлении как мы, девки-дуры?!!!

Date: 2006-03-20 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verity.livejournal.com
вот скажи мне как эксперт: а я - девОчка, девка-дура или что-то принципиально иное?

Date: 2006-03-20 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chameleon-girl.livejournal.com
У тебя есть Объект?

Date: 2006-03-20 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verity.livejournal.com
Да, я абажаю бирманский язык :Р

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Date: 2006-03-20 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagmara.livejournal.com
счас не знаю, а раньше определенно была ДД

Date: 2006-03-20 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verity.livejournal.com
а в чем это выражалось :)?

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Date: 2006-03-20 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tavia-.livejournal.com
Так изложи свой взгляд на это, о гуру!

Date: 2006-03-20 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagmara.livejournal.com
дело не в Объектах, хотя этот признак чаще есть чем нет. Мир девОчки строицца ею вокруг нее самой. А мир ДД - вокруг ее отношения к кому-либо, как правило к предмету чуйств. То есть мера эгоизма там может быть одинакова, но вектор разный. Не знаю, внятно ли получилось, как пример - в "Гедде Габлер" отчетливо видно что девОчка - это Гедда, а ДД - это Теа.

Date: 2006-03-20 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tavia-.livejournal.com
Имхо, мир каждого человека строится вокруг него самого. В конце концов, все наши знания о мире начинаются с химической реакции в наших рецепторах.
А готовность стелиться под любимого красным ковром, если ты об этом, быстро проходит с опытом. У кого-то - буквально после первого шага по ним ногами.
И это, имхо, про внутреннюю гибкость в тех вопросах, где отношение к себе вступает в противоречие с отношением к другому, что ли.

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:-))

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Date: 2006-03-20 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chameleon-girl.livejournal.com
Нее... это, по-моему, совсем не то... Что значит "строится вокруг нее самой"? А в чем вообще разница между "вокруг нее самой" и "отношением к чему-либо"? По-моему, в случае девОчества это взаимодополняющие вещи. А стало быть, в качестве критерия не катят.

Date: 2006-03-20 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ecreet.livejournal.com
Оу. Тогда я, получается, девОчка?

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Date: 2006-03-20 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chameleon-girl.livejournal.com
"Ах, я такая сложная! Сложная внутри. Внешность совершенно обычная, но внутри я такая сло-ожная! Тебе не понять."

Или можно еще вспомнить старую английскую пословицу про пустую посуду.

Date: 2006-03-20 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagmara.livejournal.com
вопрос собссна не в том что вы, девОчки, проще, а в том что вы савсэм другие :-))

Date: 2006-03-20 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chameleon-girl.livejournal.com
А с этим никто и не спорит.

Date: 2006-03-20 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maiwen.livejournal.com
а я, а мне?

Date: 2006-03-20 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagmara.livejournal.com
Раньше - ДД, теперь не знаю. Но это даже не мое личное мнение, это, можно сказать, общественное мнение :-)))

Date: 2006-03-20 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maiwen.livejournal.com
ой, а можно поподробнее? что изменилось?
особенно раз это общественное мнение...
Можно даже в привате. Мне правда интересно. У меня тут некоторый кризис личности имеет место быть.

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Date: 2006-03-20 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anoriel.livejournal.com
А если человек не зациклен, он кто?:)

Date: 2006-03-20 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagmara.livejournal.com
знаешь, на некоторых стоит вполглаза глянуть чтобы определить - он кто. а некотрых надо долго и внимательно наблюдать. классификация-то довольно примитивная, тестов по ней никто не составлял, теоретическая база разработана слабовато :-)

Date: 2006-03-20 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ecreet.livejournal.com
Так давай разработаем! Давно мы с тобой ни на что не заморачивались совместно. Вечером напишу свои мысли по поводу.

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Date: 2006-03-20 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andin.livejournal.com
Браво!

Date: 2006-03-20 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rittare.livejournal.com
Мечусь, не знаю, куда податься!

Date: 2006-03-20 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagmara.livejournal.com
а кто на юзерпике-то?!
я думаю скорее в девОчки :-)

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Date: 2006-03-20 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chameleon-girl.livejournal.com
У тебя есть Объект?

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Date: 2006-03-20 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benni72.livejournal.com
ДевОчки - экстраверты, а ДД - интро-?

Date: 2006-03-21 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagmara.livejournal.com
нет, этот критерий не подтверждаецца наблюдениями.

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